How to Talk to Your Kids When Your Ex Will Not Pay

How to Talk to Your Kids When Your Ex Will Not Pay

Posted to by Dr. Mark Banschick on Sun, 10/18/2009 - 10:24am

Consider the situation in which a woman’s ex is willing to spend money on himself, but refuses to pay his share for their 12-year-old daughter’s summer camp. He feels that, after what he thought was a miserable marriage, he is finally enjoying his freedom and that he deserves something special, in this case — buying a “great” car.

He figures his ex-wife will deal with the costs of camp. He thinks: “Look, the reality is that I just don’t have the money.”

Now mom has to deal with a disappointed girl.

Wrong:

Mom: “Dad is willing to buy himself a fancy new car but won't pay his share in order to send you to summer camp.”

Right:

Mom: “Dad and I can’t afford camp for you this year.”

Daughter: “That's not fair. All my friends are going.”

Mom: “I know you’re disappointed. We shouldn't have promised camp to you if we couldn't come through. I owe you an apology. But, the fact remains that we can't do it this year.”

Daughter: “It’s Dad isn't it. He can buy himself a new car, but won't pay for my camp.”

Mom: “This is between your Dad and myself. I just feel bad that you are so disappointed. I will do my best not to let something like this happen again.”

Joint custody agreements sometimes have a downside. These agreements document exactly who pays for this and who pays for that and what gets split — such as camp costs, tuition for school or after-school classes and the like.

Such agreements sound good on paper and, for those couples who get along, collaborating in these responsibilities only makes for a more united front and a healthier divorce. However, in those situations where self-centeredness, greed or control continues to be issues, these numerous small negotiations can be a source for power struggles.

Each shared financial commitment and responsibility can bring a renewed sense of disappointment; making the never-ending unhappy marriage the never-ending unhappy divorce.

In this example the father is enjoying his new freedom with almost adolescent abandon.

This is more common than one might think. It is a form of regression to the grandiosity and self-centeredness of being like a teenager with few responsibilities. He is just so happy to be out of the marriage, he may think, “Thank goodness that I am free to buy the car that I really want. She would never have allowed it when we were together.”

And note that it’s not always ex-husbands. The ex-wife can go overboard on spending as well, and for the same reasons.

Perhaps Dad in the above case rationalizes that he is not really required to pay half of the camp costs. “Let her Mom pay for it. She will find the money. I have done enough for this family.”

But in critiquing her ex-husband about his “fancy new car,” Mom makes a mistake by expressing her outrage and frustration directly to their daughter. Even if the ex-husband is being irresponsible, she adds insult to injury by sharing adult information with a child.

This is a violation of the Intergenerational Boundary. It invites the child into the adult world directly by blaming her Dad, and forcing the child to choose sides. Mom is also angry that she has to deny her daughter something that she should be entititled to under the agreement.

Very frustrating.

But this too, needs to stay in the world of adults.

Mom needs a dose of perspective.

When Mom deals with her daughter in a more productive way she does three big things.

First, she acknowledges her feelings of anger and disappointment, and she apologizes to the daughter. This is good because the child needs to know that Mom knows something wrong has just happened.

Second, the mother here deftly avoids placing blame. Perspective teaches that nothing good will come out of it. The child is disappointed but, at least, understood. The world is not so random to her as a consequence.

Finally, you will notice that the daughter in this example doesn’t give up easily. She pushes and pushes her mother: “It’s Mom isn’t it? She can buy herself a new car, but won't pay for my camp.”

This is common practice for many sharp kids. They try to break through the Intergenerational Boundary in order to get information that may be useful in making their case. Like a first-rate attorney, they try to gain an advantage.

When parents give in to this kind of pressure, it usually hurts the kids.

Keep perspective and do what is best for your kids. In a less-than-perfect world, each and every parent has tough parenting decisions to make.

You won’t get them all right, but you can do better, every day.

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Comments

I'm in college right now and

I'm in college right now and I have had financial issues with my mother who is too selfish to help pay my rent. I know that college is a gift and not a birth right, I've just been frustrated because I'd been told one thing and had something else happen. My parents told me that while I was younger they had set aside for both me and my brother a decent amount of money to go towards a down payment on our first houses, not to be touched until then. I recently brought up the subject of rent to my mother (she and my father agreed when they divorced they'd each be responsible for 50% of my expenses until I finish school) and she said we would just tap into the money they had set aside, because she couldn't scrape up the 1150 to pay half my rent and 800 to pay half of my meal plan. If this was truly the case I would keep my mouth shut and be ok with dipping into the money, I know times are tough and sometimes you have to improvise. But this isn't the case. She planned a trip to Jamaica this December with her friends, bought herself an I-pad this past week and just informed me that over spring break (she works at a college) she and her friends are going to Paris for a week. Yet she can't scrape up the 2000 needed to help me through school this semester. (tuition and books are covered by a scholarship) I was venting to my dad one day I was so furious with her, he told me flat out that when they got divorced he wrote her a check for 170,000 thousand dollars for child support (3 years for me till I was 18 and 1 year for my brother) with the expectation that would help cover her half of my college expenses down the road. Now three years later she can't help pay those expenses. (My brother now lives with my dad and goes to school at a community college so his expenses are considerably less) There is no way my brother and I burned through 170K. I don't really agree with not telling your children (once they're in their late teens) what mommy or daddy really does with their money. I have almost severed complete ties with my mother because of this. Her selfishness just really showed me her true colors. It was apparent before I found out about the money but that was just the final straw. Keeping your mouth shut and covering for the other parent is the best option until the kid is in their teens, I get that it's a grown up conversation but kids of divorce have to grow up a lot faster and most of them can handle it.

How to talk to the kids when the ex won't pay

Come on. I have been the mature one and "cover" for dad's poor decisions. Why can't the daughter know that each parents chooses priorities when buying things? My ex says he can't afford to pay for sports tournaments, about 100 bucks. However, he can afford to make, drink, and buy beer every week. He uses me and knows I'll pay, but all the small "I can't afford to pay for that" adds up. Yep, I probably shouldn't pay when he can't but I don't think the kids should suffer for our split in regards to their routines if in reality he can help pay. Other ideas?

My mom failed at a lot of

My mom failed at a lot of things, however she never told me when my dad wasn't paying child support. She never told me when he forgot my birthday or to send a Christmas gift. She covered for him. I am so grateful she did, because eventually I formed my own opinion of him without her negative influence. I put two and two together and asked mom about certain points in my childhood that didn't add up (once I was an adult), and My dad and I had to have a rock bottom that was purely between the two of us in order to rebuild a relationship long after I had my own first child. Actually, our relationship didn't start to mend until I was pregnant with my 4th. I was able to confront him about things that hurt my feelings. I never thought my mom was pinning me against my dad or lying about him. I never chose my dad oer my mom because my mom let him dig his own grave. He did a bad enough job, he didn't need my mom's help.

university fees after divorce

I HAVE BEEN DIVORCED 8 YEARS,SINCE THEN I HAVE ALWAYS HAD PROBLEMS GETTING ANY MONEY FROM MY EX FOR HELP WITH THE CHILDREN.I STAYED AT HOME WHEN THEY WERE ALL YOUNG WHICH ENABLED HIM TO CLIMB THE CAREER LADDER AND HE HAS A FANTASTIC WELL PAID JOB NOW.WE HAVE BOTH RE MARRIED SINCE AND MY NEW HUSBAND SUPPORTS HIS 3 CHILDREN THROUGH THE CSA HOWEVER MY EX IS SO CONTROLLING HE ALWAYS TRIES TO DO DEALS WITH ME RATHER THAN GO THROUGH CSA.MY YOUNGEST IS NOW 15 AND MY OLDER 2 ARE 19 AND 22 AND BOTH AT UNI.I HAVE HAD TO GO TO CSA NOW BECAUSE I HAVE HAD NO MONEY FROM HIM FOR 12 MONTHS AND I AM TOLD DUE TO HIS SALARY I AM ENTITLED TO £616 PER MONTH WHICH IS 15% FOR JUST THE 1 QUALIFYING CHILD,THIS TELLS YOU HOW WELL PAID HE IS.OUT OF THIS HE IS EXPECTING ME TO FUND BOTH OF MY OLDER 2 AT UNI,THEIR RENTS COMBINED ARE £520 WHICH WOULD LEAVE ME ONLY £80 FOR MY YOUNGEST WHOM THE MONEY IS ACTUALLY FOR.I HAVE SAID I AM ENTITLED TO CSA BUT SURELY UNI COSTS SHOULD BE SHARED BETWEEN US BOTH.AM I RIGHT IN THINKING THIS BECAUSE I AM STRUGGLING SO MUCH FINANCIALLY BECAUSE OF THIS.ALSO I MUST ADD MY 19YR OLD DAUGHTER HAS A MEDICAL CONDITION WHICH NEEDED SURGERY, THE WAIT ON NHS WAS 2YRS AND IT WAS AFFECTING HER LIFE SO WE AGREED TO GO PRIVATE AND PAY £4000 FOR THE OP.WE PAID IT INITIALLY AS HE WAS ONCE AGAIN ON A HOLIDAY AND GUESS WHAT, HE NOW WONT PAY US HIS HALF.WHAT CAN I DO?

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