i won, i knew i could.. i knew i could expose your real "man hating personality" in just one curt paragraph. this is so easy.. and its exactly why you will fail in your second attempt at love..like most here, you either been neglected or abused by some male figure in your past and you are projecting your own shortcomings onto your partners... i bet it comes out in your songs...don't worry about me. i am happily married for over 20 years, work on wall street, my wife stays at home and takes care of our children. we have a great home in a top town and we have a great vacation home as well. enough of me. and i do apologize for striking a raw nerve in you. i do enjoy this site and i offer solid advice on occasions- i just wish people on this site would work on their marriages as much as they work on their postings to this site... many women here "admire" their parents long lasting marriage on this site- thinking they had it so easy- not so- i am sure their parents have had many circumstances and pitfalls that could have derailed their marriage- but like most successsfull couples- they decided to work on their relationship- care for one another, remain committed to each other and respect each other as individuals ... event the darkest moments in a relationship can forster closeness and a deeper love for each other once you overcome rouch patches... that is what us long-term couples know that most of you here don't ... SORRY, but you WILL fail again in marriage.. jsut remember who told you first- thanks!

Okay everyone, let's slow down and really think about the purpose of all of our comments. There are many assumptions flying around that do not serve anyone. I think that it is unfair to assume that most women on this website are men haters and will fail at marriage again. I tried to work on my marriage while my husband was cheating on me, and did so with knowing the marriage takes committment and hard work. However, I realized that my husband was not going to do what needed to be done to repair his part in the marriage, and I had enough dignity and self-esteem to get out of the situation. I, too, admire my parents who have been married for 30+ years. However, I am not going to aim for this with a person who is abusive and manipulative. We all have major times of growth in our lives, so assuming that one cannot learn and improve from a failed marriage is just fueling the cycle of marriage "doomsday" that exists in our country. And, what is the point of provoking and manipulating each other to get the responses we want, especially if it results in anger in the other person? That is a form of abuse that actually deeply hurts relationships, including marriages and is not helpful on this site. As a favor to everyone, if you do noy have constructive and supportive things to say, keep it away from this site.

Since you know so much about women, maybe you can do a number on me. Here's my profile: I think this is a wonderful site for women to share their thoughts and feelings during the very difficult process that is divorce. I wish my own mother had had something like this when she was going through her very difficult divorce years ago. She, like these women, didn't hate men at all. Since you're so "happily married" (hence why you spend your free time on a site for divorcing women), maybe you are incapable of understanding that people get frustrated at those who they love, especially when they are not treated with the respect they deserve. If you interpret expressing frustration and anger at one individual as synonymous with hating an entire gender, then you're clearly the one with issues. I suppose you've never grumbled about women. And on Wall Street (yes, we're all very very impressed by your job and vacation home), I'm sure you've never grumbled to a colleague about another coworker, because that would suggest you are a "colleague hater" or a "wall street hater". Well, that's your logic at least. If it sounds stupid coming out of my mouth/keyboard, imagine how stupid it sounded coming out of yours. And by the way, no one buys your "$5 bet" claim for a second. Do you actually expect anyone to believe you and a friend/coworker were actually browsing a site for women together, and you pulled him over and said, "Dude--I'll bet you I can get this chick to..."? Yeah, that's very credible. But of course, I wouldn't know how men work, right? I'm just like all the other women on this site..."lesbians" as you so brilliantly identified us. That's very astute. Pat yourself on the back for coming up with such an original zinger (page 5 of Rush Limbaugh's first book, perhaps?). Oh, and don't bother stating you "enjoy this site" and "offer solid advice on occasions". We don't buy it for a second, especially when in the very next sentence you once again degrade women and their choices. So go back to your imaginary wife, house, job, etc, and stop taking our your personal frustrations with women on people you don't know. Oh, and last thing--the "man-hating" site you read has...well...men on the staff. A number of them. Of course, they must hate men too. That would be your logic I'm borrowing once again. So...that's me. Are you ready to tell me what kind of woman I am, and what kind of childhood issues formed my view of women, men, and relationships? Go for it! Oh...oops...forgot one last detail: I'm a 36-year old man. Good luck!

Thank YOU for confirming what we already knew: That you don't work on Wall Street! I live in NYC and know quite a few people on Wall Street. Every one of them works 60-70 hours per week, from first-year analysts to senior VPs. Every one of them says Monday mornings are total chaos. Yet you somehow had time to go on this site, check your old posts, read my comment, and then respond...all on a Monday morning (3/24/08)?! Please... Give it up. You're just sad. The women who post here have all out-classed you -- they're being honest about their struggles and difficulties, while you're a disgruntled man hiding behind lies. But I'm sure it's not your fault. After all, "we do what we learn", right?

Why can't you admit, since all of us know by now lesbianism is not a choice - its something you either are or aren't at birth, that you wasted 10 years of your husband's life fooling him into thinking you love him- probably just to have kids... thanks for confirming all that I've said here! you made my day..

REAL SOON... OOPS, I FORGOT.. SOON YOU WON'T BE A FIRST WIFE ANYMORE. YOU'LL NEED TO OPEN UP A NEW SITE NAMED "SECOND WIFE'S WORLD:... YOU'LL BE BACK SOON AS YOU REALIZE YOUR GUY IS'NT CAMELOT.. COMPLICATED CREATURE.. HE WON'T MAKE YOU HAPPY BECAUSE OF YOU- NOT HIM... LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR NEXT "GO AROUND"