When Pink Slips Force Alimony Adjustments

When Pink Slips Force Alimony Adjustments

Should ex-wives be understanding or red with rage?

Posted to by Jill Brooke on Wed, 04/08/2009 - 5:42pm

The other day I was speaking to an ex-wife whose husband had lost his job and asked for what is known in the divorce business as a modification. This means the spouse — usually the husband — goes back to court to modify the alimony and custody payments that were based on a previous salary.

In the past, judges would make it tough for a spouse to get a modification. The judge would say that even if the spouse doesn't have cash, he could sell property or other assets to make good on his divorce deal.

Not anymore.

With real estate values plummeting, houses gathering dust on the "For Sale" block or foreclosing, salaries dwindling, 401K values collapsing and jobs disappearing, judges realize that modifications are not only necessary but fair.

The modifications are happening both for child support and alimony. Child support payments are usually a percentage of gross income — approximately 17 percent for a child — and alimony is the wild card in divorce settlements which is decided based on lifestyle, employment eligibility, and years of marriage.

This week, the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers released a survey which stated that 39 percent of AAML members have seen an increase in child support payment modifications during the current economic downturn and that 42 percent of the attorneys cited a rise is alimony modifications.

When I mention to this ex-wife that her ex-husband most likely isn't stashing the cash in a Swiss bank account but genuinely compromised and therefore she should compromise, she becomes enraged. Past hurts flare up. The feeling of being as disposable as Kleenex makes her want to cry.

"Let him figure it out," she fumed. "I already am living on less as a divorced woman. It's not my problem."

But it is.

Some wives I'm speaking to are so preoccupied with fear for their own survival — and their kids — that they aren't as sensitive to how difficult it is for current paychecks to possibly stretch and support not one but two families. As my colleague Dr. Mark Banschick says, "It takes a big person to see that their husband is also entitled to a quality of life."

To many ex-wives, they are feeling cheated once again. First, they were cheated of the intact marriage and family that maybe broke up because they were cheated on and now cheated by the system in not making their ex-spouse pay. But divorce blinds people sometimes to being clear-eyed.

I thought about this again after reading the New York Times piece the other day on how judges are managing these modification requests that are flooding courtrooms like a financial Katrina.

As Judge Matthew Troy, who has been a Family Court judge in Manhattan since 1999, explained, it's tough for everyone.

In recent weeks, he told the Times, he had a former Lehman Brothers executive whose $7 million in stock had disappeared, leaving him unable to pay his child support as well as a factory worker who went from a decent-paying factory job to working in food service during Mets games in Queens.

Judge Troy lowered the former factory worker's monthly payment for his three teenagers to $50 per month, from $686. Otherwise, he feared, the father would be unable to meet his obligation and face a more drastic punishment: jail.

"It wasn't his fault he lost his job," Judge Troy told the Times. "I don't want to throw a guy like that in the clink."

For many divorcees, these types of modifications are going to continue until the economy improves. Instead of focusing on frustration and anger, perhaps another alternative would be to go to a mediator and have someone help referee a new settlement to reduce expensive legal fees. What most people are forgetting is that these modifications are not always permanent but temporary.

Not only does a percentage of unemployment benefits go to child support but one can work out an agreement that when finances improve, so will the distribution of funds. When discussions take place with understanding and sensitivity, the results are usually better. It is always beneficial to have these talks before battling in court. And even though you may not be married to this person anymore, you will still have a parental partnership worth maintaining for the sake of your children.

So you can be red with rage that the job market tanked but also mindful that few things are forever whether it's a marriage, a mortgage, or a mangled economy.

Comments

pathetic women in divorce

I'm the "other" woman and with a wonderful man who's wife paid him NO attention and would NOT get off her fat a** when the 2 kids were in school and work..... pathetic excuse for a REAL woman! She was mean to her husband aka my NOW boyfriend saying he was a bad kisser; had chicken legs; never wanted to kiss or hug or cuddle at night. Now after 27 years of marriage and her CONSTANT excuses not to get a job she is asking for absurd alimony amounts and taking him for a miserable ride! Yeah course he hooked up w/ m e but its her own fault she got mean lazy and fat and would not contribute financially or at home Oh yeah and denied him sex too. She should get a job and be accountable for herself like EVERYONE ELSE!

It isn't always the man's fault

I was happy to let my ex wife stay home "with the children", however she did NOTHING at all when she was home. She didn't work with the kids, she didn't clean the house. All she did was lie to me about anything that she could and hide mail from me at every opportunity. My son turned 4 years old and she hadn't even TRIED to toilet train him even though she was a full-time stay-home "mom". I did not have an affair. I did not leave her due to a mid-life crisis. I spent a year in counseling trying to find ANY reason to let me stay in the marriage. I am an educated and involved Father who loves his children and I have 50% custody of my children (they spend at least 1/2 their time in my humble house). So, what happened when we divorced? I pay her $3000/month while she lives in a house that is 60% larger than my tiny little place. She works part time at the school and has taken each of the last 3 Summers off completely. Because she doesn't try to live within her means, she has been in debt for the past 2 years and I have bent over backwards to help her, including: paying her alimony and child support weeks early every month and loaning her $12,000+ out of my pocket. My standard of living has dropped considerably. Her's is about equivalent to mine even though I have 2 degrees and have worked for 29 years while she has been to 5 colleges with no degree and hasn't worked full-time since the early 90s. Given that I have my children at least 1/2 time, someone please tell me how that is remotely fair? Now, if I am unfortunate enough to lose my job, it will be incumbent upon me to prove to the court that I can't pay her, rather than the obvious fact that when there is reduced income, it isn't possible to support two households. To the point about "why doesn't he use his retirement?" - my ex got 1/2 of all of our assets (that I alone accumulated) and a big chunk of my pension, too. So, how about "why doesn't she dip into the retirement assets that she "inherited" rather than me paying her more, too? This is the most bizarre "system" that I have ever seen. Someone who couldn't be bothered to be a partner or parent to our children is "entitled" to live at the same standard of living as the partner who got his education and has worked for 29 years? What a joke.

1st wives club

I believe if you were married to your spouse 18 years or longer and your ex-spouse was the cause of the divorce due to adultrey or his mid-life crisis, then the ex-spouse should pay as long as the court order decree states. Why should second or even third wives benefit form the stuggles of supporting him in his career, raising the kids, going without and the struggles it entails from the bginning to the endfor someone else to reap the benefits. 2nd wives knew what they were getting from the start when they became involved with the divorce spouse and have no reason to complain. If they weren't ready to deal with the alimony or child support then they should have went out and found a single man with no obligations to the d1st family. These no-fault states and divorces encourages divorce among families therefore destroying the family foundation. All individuals deserve to be happy in the relationship without outside interference and yes, I believe there should be grounds for divorce other than "I am not in love with you anymore, or I fell in love with someone else, or I am not happy". Marriage was not based on everything being happy and if you were happy and together for 18 years what changed? Maybe the other woman?

Adjustment of alimony and child support

Reference adjustment of child support and alimony, how do i get it decrease. I about to loose my job, so instead of owing money that I will be able to pay, i will like to file for adjustment as soon as possible, so i will not go many months with out paying, because i will not have the money

I can't understand the mind

I can't understand the mind set of a woman who is a habitual cheater, decides to divorce, receives alimony then is hostile when the ex-husband remarries. This particular POS has never worked a day in her life and gets a huge chunk of change monthly and has the audacity to complain? Where is your self worth? Whatcha gonna do when it runs out?

Alimony when SHE cheated?

My husband has been paying alimony for 12 years now (we have been married for 7). All the kids are grown now (ages 25 to 30) and have children of their own. My beef is that the ex-wife was the one who had the 'affair' after 14 years of marriage and couldn't decide if she wanted to stay after two years of unsuccessful counseling. She than battled with the courts for almost 4 years so when the divorce was finalized it was close to 20 years of marriage which then increased her alimony. She hasn't worked now for 5 years and states, "she wants to spend more time with her grandchildren! " So it seems now he can never stop paying her alimony, so what gives a judge the right to put a LIFE sentence on a man? I call Alimony; The lazy bitch syndrome! Why not put the time of alimony payment the same time as the years of marriage? What is going to happen when we want to retire in 10 years? All the retirement savings WE have been working hard for will go towards the alimony while she gets to sit on her ass and stays the 'victum'.

I have no sympathy for lost

I have no sympathy for lost jobs when thousands of dollars have been spent on the Other Woman and for loads of "entertainment." This has been an issue in my situation as well. If a father/ex husband has money stashed in a 401K or other investments, they have money for support. As a women divorced in the past year, I too have struggled finding decent full time employment, and the standard of living for my children and I has dropped dramatically. I guarantee the court wouldn't have any sympathy to help me if I lost my job, and my share of child support that I am expected to provide wouldn't be altered. Also, the court would stand by and do nothing as I lost my house. Sorry, I have every right to be red with rage over this favoritism to men.

You really believe that

You really believe that alimony represents favoritism to men? I'm an unmarried woman who thinks it is absolutely ridiculous that alimony can be a lifetime mandate. In a marriage, it takes two to make the decisions. If the wife decides to stay home and not work, she should hold responsibility for that decision rather than pointing to the husband as the culprit for that decision. If the husband wasn't willing to be the sole earner thus doubling his stress, would the wife have the luxury of spending ample amount of time with the children? The husband is working to support the whole family, not only himself. If a marriage dissolves, how can the wife argue that she deserves a lifetime of alimony when the she also enjoyed the benefits of not working? And if the wife did work, how can she argue for alimony when her pay would still have remained the same even if she had been unmarried? How can a woman justify using someone's retirement fund as money for support? Obviously, investment into their 401k is money that was gradually invested into their retirement fund, not one lump sum that was stowed away. Perhaps these woman should stop thinking of themselves as the victim but look forward to the future. They should stop bitching about how their standard of living has declined and need more alimony. You enjoyed the benefits of your husband's money when you were married that you wouldn't have otherwise have had the privilege of enjoying if you were single. How can you justify sustaining that kind of living when you are not earning it? These type of divorcees are plain greedy and it is very unfortunate that our laws tolerate such greed.

well thats to bad...I guess

well thats to bad...I guess in New York State it just might equalize the fact that fathers have no rights....I bet he cheated cause your a high maintannence troll

I wish my ex would have talked to me

when he lost his job. But instead, he just stopped paying child support. Completely. He still had money for bars, and for buying a Wii (for himself!), but not one dime to help pay for our daughter's expenses. I can guarantee you that if I lost my job? He wouldn't have ponied up more of *his* cash to make up the shortfall.

divorce/alimony

Gee, I wonder if it would be possible to sue the mistress for alimony. After all, she broke up our marriage and the ex is spending tons of money on her, vacations, gifts, theater tickets, and baseball games for her and her son. I think if men can afford the mistress, they can afford to pay the wife what she deserves. If it weren's for her, I wouldn't be living the lifestyle I am. All the hard work I put into the marriage with my career and my money is now being used on her. Why is it that she gets the goods and the wife gets what's left over?

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